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Message 52031 - Posted: 6 Jun 2019 | 18:31:56 UTC

As my computers are finishing WU's new units are NOT being sent.
Is there a problem as the server status suggests over 200 long WU's are ready to send.

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Message 52035 - Posted: 7 Jun 2019 | 0:23:00 UTC
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Same here. It appears to have happened due to the development of the new ACEMD3 app.

My Win machines (Pascal GPU) with 3xx drivers can download ok, my Win Machines (Pascal GPU) with 4xx drivers cannot.

I have downgraded one Win machine from 4xx driver to 3xx driver, and it can now download tasks.

hopefully only a temporary glitch.

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Message 52036 - Posted: 7 Jun 2019 | 2:10:26 UTC

App 2.04 should support cuda10, if the scheduler collaborates.
Expect hiccups...

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Message 52037 - Posted: 7 Jun 2019 | 6:47:59 UTC - in response to Message 52036.

Ouch. It must be because of the conditions for offering cuda100 vs cuda80. I promote "new" hosts to cuda100 but there is no such app for acemd2 (there is for acemd3).

Will try to find a solution.

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Message 52038 - Posted: 7 Jun 2019 | 7:54:56 UTC - in response to Message 52037.

Ouch. It must be because of the conditions for offering cuda100 vs cuda80. I promote "new" hosts to cuda100 but there is no such app for acemd2 (there is for acemd3).

Will try to find a solution.

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That's easy: create a CUDA10 Windows app. :)

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Message 52039 - Posted: 7 Jun 2019 | 8:00:52 UTC - in response to Message 52037.

Please check if solved

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Message 52040 - Posted: 7 Jun 2019 | 8:01:45 UTC - in response to Message 52038.

Ouch. It must be because of the conditions for offering cuda100 vs cuda80. I promote "new" hosts to cuda100 but there is no such app for acemd2 (there is for acemd3).

Will try to find a solution.

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That's easy: create a CUDA10 Windows app. :)


We'll probably do it, but for acemd3. In the meantime, acemd2 should not stop working.

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Message 52041 - Posted: 7 Jun 2019 | 8:02:22 UTC

I see 844 tasks on server-status but nothing for the GPUs my computers on Windows 10 !?

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Message 52042 - Posted: 7 Jun 2019 | 8:11:15 UTC

Please check if solved

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Message 52043 - Posted: 7 Jun 2019 | 8:46:22 UTC

Yes, new tasks ready to crunch !

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Message 52044 - Posted: 7 Jun 2019 | 9:01:22 UTC - in response to Message 52043.
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Please check if solved
Yes, new tasks ready to crunch !
My CUDA10/Windows 10 host received 2 CUDA8.0 tasks at 10:08 CET (08:08 UTC)

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Message 52045 - Posted: 7 Jun 2019 | 9:18:35 UTC - in response to Message 52044.

:)

The "legacy" apps will stay cuda 80 only.

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Message 52046 - Posted: 7 Jun 2019 | 9:40:46 UTC

All hosts now with tasks.
Thanks everyone :)

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Message 52047 - Posted: 7 Jun 2019 | 10:18:18 UTC

It looks like cuda 6.5 is no longer available for Kepler cards, with Windows 7 and 3xx.xx drivers.


http://www.gpugrid.net/results.php?hostid=494023


Is this by accident or intent?


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Message 52048 - Posted: 7 Jun 2019 | 11:06:07 UTC - in response to Message 52047.
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Might be fixed. Please check.

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Message 52049 - Posted: 7 Jun 2019 | 13:35:25 UTC
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Hi guys, I have Linux system with Nvidia Pascal graphics card, Driver 418.56
Can't get any new tasks when was trying to connect this week.

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Update:
Apparently in Ubuntu 18.04 you have to install CUDA separately in addition to drivers.

Was able to install nvcc from default repository and after restart started to get tasks: "New version of ACEMD 2.04 (cuda100)".

nvcc: NVIDIA (R) Cuda compiler driver
Copyright (c) 2005-2017 NVIDIA Corporation
Built on Fri_Nov__3_21:07:56_CDT_2017
Cuda compilation tools, release 9.1, V9.1.85


Hope to get some long runs too

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Update2

It didn't last for long, got only 6 tasks and silence again, it's really confusing to figure out if something wrong on user side or the project is just being picky :)

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Message 52050 - Posted: 7 Jun 2019 | 14:17:50 UTC - in response to Message 52049.
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It's not you -- the tasks you received are 'test tasks' testing a new version of the Linux application. The regular/long work units right now are only for Windows hosts until the new application is deployed. (The new app is for Linux hosts at the moment.)

http://www.gpugrid.net/forum_thread.php?id=4935

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Message 52052 - Posted: 7 Jun 2019 | 16:42:41 UTC - in response to Message 52031.

As my computers are finishing WU's new units are NOT being sent.
Is there a problem as the server status suggests over 200 long WU's are ready to send.


ok, thanks for clarification !

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Message 52055 - Posted: 7 Jun 2019 | 21:45:26 UTC - in response to Message 52048.

Might be fixed. Please check.



It's not fixed.


http://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=20990388


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Message 52056 - Posted: 8 Jun 2019 | 9:28:44 UTC - in response to Message 52055.
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Might be fixed. Please check.



It's not fixed.


http://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=20990388




Made yet another attempt. Is there a reason for not upgrading the driver? Supporting old versions is really a problem.

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Message 52057 - Posted: 8 Jun 2019 | 11:02:09 UTC

391 isn't that old.
Sometimes drivers get slower as they get bigger.

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Message 52058 - Posted: 8 Jun 2019 | 12:16:05 UTC

A GTX 690 is compute capability 3.0. Driver versions 391.xx are cuda 9 capable. Upgrading the driver to 4xx.xx will be cuda 10 capable.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think Cuda 8,9 and 10 will work on CC 3.0 cards like the GTX 690 as along as you enable CC 3.x support in the makefile.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CUDA

CUDA SDK 6.5 support for compute capability 1.1 – 5.x (Tesla, Fermi, Kepler, Maxwell). Last version with support for compute capability 1.x (Tesla) CUDA SDK 7.0 – 7.5 support for compute capability 2.0 – 5.x (Fermi, Kepler, Maxwell) CUDA SDK 8.0 support for compute capability 2.0 – 6.x (Fermi, Kepler, Maxwell, Pascal). Last version with support for compute capability 2.x (Fermi) CUDA SDK 9.0 – 9.2 support for compute capability 3.0 – 7.2 (Kepler, Maxwell, Pascal, Volta) CUDA SDK 10.0 – 10.1 support for compute capability 3.0 – 7.5 (Kepler, Maxwell, Pascal, Volta, Turing)

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Message 52059 - Posted: 8 Jun 2019 | 12:56:42 UTC
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Now I was getting this this on windows 10 machine with Maxwell cards:


06/08/2019 8:51:33 AM | GPUGRID | Requesting new tasks for CPU and NVIDIA GPU
06/08/2019 8:51:34 AM | GPUGRID | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
06/08/2019 8:51:34 AM | GPUGRID | No tasks sent
06/08/2019 8:51:34 AM | GPUGRID | No tasks are available for Long runs (8-12 hours on fastest card)

When long runs were still available.

Long runs (8-12 hours on fastest card) 24 2,468 2.78 (0.44 - 19.86) 663

But my Kelper card windows 7 machine, just received cuda 6.5 WUs.

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Message 52060 - Posted: 8 Jun 2019 | 13:49:05 UTC - in response to Message 52059.
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Now I was getting this this on windows 10 machine with Maxwell cards:


06/08/2019 8:51:33 AM | GPUGRID | Requesting new tasks for CPU and NVIDIA GPU
06/08/2019 8:51:34 AM | GPUGRID | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
06/08/2019 8:51:34 AM | GPUGRID | No tasks sent
06/08/2019 8:51:34 AM | GPUGRID | No tasks are available for Long runs (8-12 hours on fastest card)

When long runs were still available.

Long runs (8-12 hours on fastest card) 24 2,468 2.78 (0.44 - 19.86) 663

But my Kelper card windows 7 machine, just received cuda 6.5 WUs.


I had raised the minimum driver version required for cuda80 in order to avoid the previous problem. Now I reverted the change. Still, this level of ad-hocness is not sustainable; the next app may need updated drivers.

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Message 52061 - Posted: 8 Jun 2019 | 14:57:16 UTC - in response to Message 52060.

Now I was getting this this on windows 10 machine with Maxwell cards:


06/08/2019 8:51:33 AM | GPUGRID | Requesting new tasks for CPU and NVIDIA GPU
06/08/2019 8:51:34 AM | GPUGRID | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
06/08/2019 8:51:34 AM | GPUGRID | No tasks sent
06/08/2019 8:51:34 AM | GPUGRID | No tasks are available for Long runs (8-12 hours on fastest card)

When long runs were still available.

Long runs (8-12 hours on fastest card) 24 2,468 2.78 (0.44 - 19.86) 663

But my Kelper card windows 7 machine, just received cuda 6.5 WUs.


I had raised the minimum driver version required for cuda80 in order to avoid the previous problem. Now I reverted the change. Still, this level of ad-hocness is not sustainable; the next app may need updated drivers.



It seems to be working well, right now. Both my machines received WUs.

Just, tell us what we need to upgrade, and which cards will be supported and not supported.


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Message 52064 - Posted: 8 Jun 2019 | 17:03:34 UTC - in response to Message 52061.

.Just, tell us what we need to upgrade, and which cards will be supported and not supported.





Yes please. I have 2 machines I converted back to windows after the linux issue. But I haven't updated the drivers as they were working. If there is a minimum driver version that you would require please let us know and we can make that happen. On my linux machines I run the latest drivers as my other project requires cuda 10.1 to run on them.
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Message 52065 - Posted: 8 Jun 2019 | 17:42:31 UTC - in response to Message 52060.

Now I was getting this this on windows 10 machine with Maxwell cards:


06/08/2019 8:51:33 AM | GPUGRID | Requesting new tasks for CPU and NVIDIA GPU
06/08/2019 8:51:34 AM | GPUGRID | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
06/08/2019 8:51:34 AM | GPUGRID | No tasks sent
06/08/2019 8:51:34 AM | GPUGRID | No tasks are available for Long runs (8-12 hours on fastest card)

When long runs were still available.

Long runs (8-12 hours on fastest card) 24 2,468 2.78 (0.44 - 19.86) 663

But my Kelper card windows 7 machine, just received cuda 6.5 WUs.


I had raised the minimum driver version required for cuda80 in order to avoid the previous problem. Now I reverted the change. Still, this level of ad-hocness is not sustainable; the next app may need updated drivers.


What is special with 4xx drivers?

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Message 52068 - Posted: 8 Jun 2019 | 18:51:56 UTC - in response to Message 52065.
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418 has cuda 10.1 as well as support for Turing cards
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Message 52069 - Posted: 8 Jun 2019 | 20:32:46 UTC

Thats nice but that doesn't change anything for a CUDA80 app or older cards like the 690 mentioned above.

Unless there is a specific CUDA10 command in the new version then drivers that are older should still be supported. It's like calling something an AVX512 app and limiting to only CPUs with AVX512 even though only SSE2 is used.

It's not like people are asking for pre Kepler drivers to be supported. Just last years.

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Message 52070 - Posted: 8 Jun 2019 | 21:11:30 UTC - in response to Message 52069.

The 390 series drivers are Legacy drivers now. Minimal support. But the 390 series is still the default repository version offered in many distros.

This Nvidia document shows the changes from CUDA backwards compatibility to CUDA forwards compatibility. It also shows CUDA level compatibility with the various generations of GeForce cards.

https://docs.nvidia.com/deploy/cuda-compatibility/

I agree it may be difficult to maintain support for the older hardware in the future.

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Message 52781 - Posted: 4 Oct 2019 | 22:22:44 UTC

Hi:

My laptop is eagerly awaiting for some more GPUGRID work units.

COME ON DOWN!!!

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Message 52788 - Posted: 5 Oct 2019 | 17:25:20 UTC - in response to Message 52781.

Hi:

My laptop is eagerly awaiting for some more GPUGRID work units.

COME ON DOWN!!!

Clive


Hi,
as a lot of us, you need an alternative project (plane B) to satisfy your Nvidia gpu cards.
Be patient.
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Message 52789 - Posted: 5 Oct 2019 | 18:45:45 UTC - in response to Message 52788.

Hi:
Thanks for your reply.
GPUGRID.net is the only Bonic project that runs on GPU cards that I am aware of. Are there other BONIC GPU projects that I can use as a plan B?
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Message 52790 - Posted: 5 Oct 2019 | 19:01:27 UTC - in response to Message 52789.

Are there other BONIC GPU projects that I can use as a plan B?

yes, there are.
Seti@Home, MooWrapper, Einstein, and several more.
Just look up the BOINC projects list, there is the pertinent information for each of the projects.

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Message 52791 - Posted: 5 Oct 2019 | 19:24:56 UTC - in response to Message 52790.

BOINC projects list

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Message 52805 - Posted: 8 Oct 2019 | 6:55:31 UTC

Here are the ones I like, somewhat in order of preference and if they have work.

Milkyway@home Physical Science Astronomy Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute

Einstein@home Physical Science Astrophysics University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee (USA), Max Planck Institute for Gravitational Physics - Hanover (Germany)

SETI@home Physical Science Astrophysics, astrobiology University of California, Berkeley

Enigma@Home Mathematics, computing, and games Cryptography Independent

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Message 52806 - Posted: 8 Oct 2019 | 7:26:37 UTC

in a way it's too bad that GPUGRID doesn't offer enough tasks for crunching by us volunteers.
The computational power interested in and available for GPUGRID is much higher than they make use of.
Which is a pitty.

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Message 52809 - Posted: 8 Oct 2019 | 15:10:02 UTC - in response to Message 52806.

in a way it's too bad that GPUGRID doesn't offer enough tasks for crunching by us volunteers.
The computational power interested in and available for GPUGRID is much higher than they make use of.
Which is a pitty.


I used to have one and occasionally two waiting work units for every long or short gpugrid WU. Now all I have are Einstein.

Just a matter of time before they are in the gridcoin graylist. I could start a poll to see if they should be kicked out but it would cost me GRC to start it. I will let someone else initiate it.

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Message 52811 - Posted: 8 Oct 2019 | 21:54:12 UTC - in response to Message 52809.

Just a matter of time before they are in the gridcoin graylist. I could start a poll to see if they should be kicked out but it would cost me GRC to start it. I will let someone else initiate it.
This is quite futile to threaten this project with putting it on the graylist at GridCoin. This wouldn't result in plenty of workunits. As of yet I would vote against that, though it would cost me some GRC. Please be patient.

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Message 52812 - Posted: 8 Oct 2019 | 22:05:15 UTC

The scientists at GPUGrid don't care about Gridcoin whitelist/greylist. They are operating on their schedule that produces science in a timely manner. Just because there are limited WUs doesn't mean they aren't pumping out studies. Changing GPUGrid to the greylist would accomplish nothing.

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Message 52813 - Posted: 8 Oct 2019 | 23:05:59 UTC - in response to Message 52811.

Just a matter of time before they are in the gridcoin graylist. I could start a poll to see if they should be kicked out but it would cost me GRC to start it. I will let someone else initiate it.
This is quite futile to threaten this project with putting it on the graylist at GridCoin. This wouldn't result in plenty of workunits. As of yet I would vote against that, though it would cost me some GRC. Please be patient.


Squeaky wheel is the one that gets greased. I now have every GPU running a long work unit and another long one in the queue and no Einstein anywhere.

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